We bring our 11 Month old daughter to the center here in our area. Apparently they have a buncha kids that have intestinal problems and/or rashes that parents cant explain. Is there any site I can go to to get SOLID info on whether it's from the bleach? Or maybe a way to test if it's from the bleach? I have seen a few disinfecting answers here that say like 2 spoons to a gallon of water. I am kinda worried about my child sucking bleach off the toys with them using 33% bleach.
Nope, not at all. And just to let you know, more than likely, it's state law. So if you want your daughter in a state certified facility that goes through yearly safety checks and certifications you're going to have to live with it. In CT, we have to use a mix of 50/50 bleach and water. Either there is something else going on in the facility, or they're using MUCH more bleach than they are letting on, because we never had any problems with the children.
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To Disinfect infant toys, isnt a spraybottle with 2/3 water and 1/3 Bleach WAY too much?
Posted at February 26th, 2009 by admin
Here is a site that lists the signs of bleach poisoning. While they may be the severe version of the side effects…if ANY are matching up to the symptoms, I would report it or at least suggest to the manager to use something alternative. That just seems really unhealthy to me.
Also, they just came out with a "bleach" anywhere hard surfaces cleaner that is safe to use around pets and children….suggest that.
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http://www.saintfranciscare.com/11222.cfm
That is a high concentration but if you daughter or anyone else's kids had bleach posioning you would know they spit up foam and need immediate ER help
most likely it is from a stomach flu going around. If you are uncomfortable talk to the centers manager or head teacher
At my day carethey use 1 tablespoon per 20 oz bottle
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It is I believe (trying to remember from my daycare days) 1 part bleach to 4 parts water but most daycares now use a different cleaner that is much safer for children. We switched towards the end of my job at the last daycare so I can't remember the name of it. The kids won't such the bleach off the toys as they are suppose to wash them with the bleach/water mixture then rinse them off and let them air dry. They can also use a peroxide mixture in place of the bleach and it is more safe and works the same way. With so many things today to disenfect with bleach isn't usually necessary. I would express your concern to the school director and ask to see where their rules are. They have instructions they give the teachers for how to clean properly per government regulations.
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yeah, cleaning up blood only needs a 1/10 solution
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When we disinfect exam tables and chairs in my clinic, we use a 1:10 solution of bleach and water. It is an effective way to kill germs, but not nearly as toxic as the solution you refer to.
The CDC guildelines for concentration of bleach solution for general clean up and disinfection is one part bleach to ten parts water. You may want to go to their web site, print their recommendations and give it to the children's center where you take your daughter.
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I am a nurse.
You are making the assumption that they don't rinse the items after washing. Most of the intestinal problems and the rashes are being caused by kids touching things and than touching each other. The child than touched places he's or her hands into their mouths therefore transferring the germs to themselves You can't assume that all parents wash their hands after changing their children heck there are people who don't wash their own hands after using the rest rooms themselves. A lot of the rashes are probably from the urine soaked diaper not being changed enough. I would stop by unexpected on day and just watch and make sure that the teachers are changing the diapers on time and washing not only their hands but the children's also. Making sure that the children wash their hands frequently makes more sense than over washing the toys. I'm sure that they rinse them or the children would be getting sick. But to make sure so that you feel better drop in unexpected and see what they are doing. You have a right to do that and if they say no find out what it is that they don't want you to see.
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Try a biodegradable disinfectant but best stay off all that comes packaged in a "GET the STAIN and GRIME OFF" bottle!!! try the COLD sterilization liquid used for baby bottles at least its safer
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Nope, not at all. And just to let you know, more than likely, it's state law. So if you want your daughter in a state certified facility that goes through yearly safety checks and certifications you're going to have to live with it. In CT, we have to use a mix of 50/50 bleach and water. Either there is something else going on in the facility, or they're using MUCH more bleach than they are letting on, because we never had any problems with the children.
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5 years daycare teacher
omg… that is WAY TOO MUCH BLEACH!!
when I worked in a daycare, we made up bulk solutions for the whole center to tap into… it was like 1/4 or 1/8 cup for a whole gallon of water!!!
here's one solution:
http://nrc.uchsc.edu/CFOC/PDFVersion/Appendix%20I.pdf
it says 1/4 cup per gallon of cool water… or 1 tablespoon per quart!!
this can be sprayed on toys, tables, doorknobs, countertops, DIAPER CHANGING TABLES, and should be allowed a minute or two to air dry… the result is non toxic, non staining, safe disinfection….
check w/ your state too… I remember when I worked in a Texas daycare the health department would come to do their regular checks, and they had these little tester strips, would come by classrooms and ask you where your disinfectant spray was, they'd test it to make sure it was right – not enough is ineffective, too much is toxic.
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The correct solution of bleach water for disinfecting surfaces is a 10% solution (1 part bleach to 10 parts water). One third solution is way too much.
I've worked in several day care centers, and have run my own home based day care, and according to the state regulations, the solution above is what they required.
As far as the toys that babies put in their mouth, it is usually recommended that they be washed in hot soapy water and rinsed in a sink full of water with about 1/4 cup or less bleach added, and soak for five minutes. They should then air dry on a clean counter.
As far as the intestinal problems, that often comes with the territory. The rashes can be from contacting something like the strong bleach, but I would ask my pediatrician before making any accusations. I would, however, mention your misgivings to your privider. You can also call your state's licensing agency and get a copy of the licensing regulations, and take them with you when you talk to the director of your day care center.
Good luck…
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I would be a bit worried about my baby sucking bleach too. Maybe you could just wash them in the washing machine in a laundry bag depending on the types of toys. Milton is a sterolizer totally safe for babies – they come in tablet or liquid from the supermarket and most people use it to do the bottles and dummies.
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